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Human Rights Group Against the Cross - WWJS?

Greek Church acts on crucifix ban

By Malcolm Brabant
BBC News, Athens

The Strasbourg ruling caused outrage in the Italian media

The Greek Orthodox Church is urging Christians across Europe to unite in an appeal against a ban on crucifixes in classrooms in Italy.

The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg ruled last week that the presence of crucifixes violated a child's right to freedom of religion.

Greece's Orthodox Church fears the Italian case will set a precedent.

It has called an emergency Holy Synod meeting for next week to devise an action plan.

Although the Greek Orthodox Church has been at odds with Roman Catholicism for 1,000 years, the judicial threat to Christian symbols has acted as a unifying force.

The European Court of Human Rights found that the compulsory display of crucifixes violated parents' rights to educate their children as they saw fit and restricted the right of children to believe or not to believe.

'Worthy symbols'

The head of the Greek Church, Archbishop Ieronymos, shares Catholic complaints that the court is ignoring the role of Christianity in forming Europe's identity.

It is not only minorities that have rights but majorities as well, said the archbishop.

One of his subordinates, Bishop Nicholas from central Greece, lamented that at this rate youngsters will not have any worthy symbols at all to inspire and protect them.

Football and pop idols are very poor substitutes, he said.

The Greek Church has ostensibly intervened in this case in response to an appeal by a Greek mother whose son is studying in Italy.

But without doubt it is concerned that its omnipotence in Greece is under threat.

A human rights group called Helsinki Monitor is seeking to use the Italian case as a precedent.

It has demanded that Greek courts remove icons of Jesus Christ from above the judge's bench and that the gospel no longer be used for swearing oaths in the witness box.

Helsinki Monitor is urging trade unions to challenge the presence of religious symbols in Greek schools.

The socialist government here is also considering imposing new taxes on the Church's vast fortune, but at the same time is urging it to do more to help immigrants and poor Greeks.

The mayor of one Italian town displayed a 2m high crucifix in protest

samantha999 samantha999 6 years 27 weeks
well when you worship the evil that is Pelosi a cross can be a damning symbol burning your retinas - like vampires and daylight.
cine_lover cine_lover 6 years 27 weeks
I wear a cross around my neck and have a cross next to my bed with a prayer card. It comforts me. But when I lived in San Francisco I can't even tell you how many people yelled at me for wearing a cross. It was ridiculous.
Grandpa Grandpa 6 years 27 weeks
In my house I am the only cross my wife has to bear. ;-). She wears a gold Celtic cross on a chain around her neck.
Merlin713 Merlin713 6 years 27 weeks
^^Pretty much, Tiff. :-(
tiff58 tiff58 6 years 27 weeks
And the attack on Christianity continues
cheekyredhead cheekyredhead 6 years 28 weeks
I don't have crosses in my home, have probably three cross necklaces I never wear, never have enjoyed even looked at crucifixes.....but I'd whip them all out and display them prominently if I knew one of the jerks was going to be around.
Merlin713 Merlin713 6 years 28 weeks
Merlin713 Merlin713 6 years 28 weeks
It feel stupid because it is stupid. I don't know what this country/world is coming to, but I hope it's a phase that we aren't stuck in for too much longer. I'm embarrassed. :oops:
Eleuthera Eleuthera 6 years 28 weeks
Another situation on which I remain positively speechless.
cheekyredhead cheekyredhead 6 years 28 weeks
It just feels so stupid. They could use their efforts to create positive change by fighting hunger and ignorance. Why waste time on something so ridiculous.
Grandpa Grandpa 6 years 28 weeks
welcome to one world court sysrem
cheekyredhead cheekyredhead 6 years 28 weeks
If we let special interest/politically correct robots determine how we dress, what we place on our walls, and how we adorn ourselves...we then would be robots without any individuality.....gosh we could create our own special interest/politically correct stance then.
samantha999 samantha999 6 years 28 weeks
They don't care because it does not involve them directly. British Airways was in the news for telling an employee to remove her cross.
Merlin713 Merlin713 6 years 28 weeks
I don't think others care. Care is the wrong word, but I can't really put into words what I hear around lately. People are less religious lately because it's apparently something that cramps their lifestyle too much, so what's the point..
cheekyredhead cheekyredhead 6 years 28 weeks
If it seems so obvious to everyone else just blind?
Merlin713 Merlin713 6 years 28 weeks
^^You pretty much summed up what I wanted to say.
cheekyredhead cheekyredhead 6 years 28 weeks
I would ask...what is next? Will they then not allow children to wear a cross around their neck, a St Christopher medal, or a star? Can people like this just move on? I find their snobbish and over bearing behavior just ridiculous. I guess I am one of those Americans who have "had it" with all the "special interest" groups and their silly machinations. Why don't they use all that effort to combat hunger or ignorance?
samantha999 samantha999 6 years 28 weeks
Why are human rights groups against our rights to tell them to take a flying leap of an iceberg?