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A virulently homophobic and anti-gay preacher on Sunday derided parents who don’t “squash like a cockroach” the gay out of their children. Pastor Sean Harris told parents they are “authorized,” and that he was “giving them a special dispensation” to attack their children. “Give them a good punch,” and “crack that wrist,” Harris told parents, if their four-year old boy, for example, “starts acting a little ‘girlish’.” Pastor Harris added that parents should tell their four-year olds to “man up, son, get that dress off you get outside and dig a ditch because that’s what boys do.” Pastor Harris, of the Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville, North Carolina, was speaking in favor of North Carolina’s Amendment One, which would write anti-gay discrimination directly into the constitution, and would define as the only legal relationship a marriage between one man and one woman. Amendment One would immediately make domestic violence victims ineligible for protection orders and would even remove children from their unmarried parents’ health insurance. “Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see that son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give them a good punch. OK? You’re not going to act like that — you were made by God to be a male and you’re going to be a male,” Pastor Harris tells his parishioners in this audio, via Jeremy Hooper at Good As You. “And when your daughter starts acting too ‘butch,’ you rein her in. And you say, ‘Oh no. Oh no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play ‘em, play ‘em to the glory of God, but sometimes you’re going to act like a girl and talk like a girl and talk like a girl, and smell like a girl, and that means you’re going to be beautiful, you’re going to be attractive, you’re going to dress yourself up’.” Note: I’m not knowledgeable on North Carolina law, but I have to wonder if parents would be subject to arrest if they followed Pastor Harris’ directions. Hooper, whose done an excellent job in the fight against Amendment One, offers the above audio, and the one below, and writes: Did you miss “Marriage Sunday,” the day (this past Sun.) that the Vote For Marriage NC coalition set aside and told pastors to use their campaign materials in order to preach in favor of Amendment 1? Pastor Harris’ Berean Baptist Church website:

Sean Harris is the Senior Pastor of Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville, NC. He is Berean’s fourth pastor in its 40 plus years of existence. Berean called Sean to be the Senior Pastor in March of 2006. His responsibilities include the preaching and teaching the Word of God, casting the vision for the ministry, the leadership of staff and faculty members, administration of Berean Baptist Academy, communication with church members, and personal discipleship. Pastor preaches during the worship services on Sunday mornings and evenings and teaches the church’s pre-membership class. He also teaches at the Academy.  Pastor also provides audio commentaries on news worthy items throughout the week for www.sermonaudio.com.   He said, "I do not apologize for the manner in which I emphasized the importance of one man and one woman getting married and staying married for the benefit of their children and society." Claiming “we also cannot compromise on what we believe the Bible teaches on all sexual perversions and immorality,” Harris wrote yesterday:

"The opposition is revealing their complete lack of toleration toward those do not approve of the LGBT lifestyle or agenda. However, we must be tolerantly intolerant. Jesus our Savior provides the perfect example of grace and truth."

(Emphasis mine.) Apparently, the Pastor has yet to hear his own words. In his “Important Clarification,” from yesterday, Pastor Harris claimed:

I would like to have been more careful with exactly what I said, but sometimes I say things without enough clarity. I trust you understood my intent in the context of my total preaching ministry. If you did not, I would be more than happy to meet with you privately to provide clarity.

Reverend Sue Clark, Interfaith Minister/Advocate for equality and human rights today attempted to contact Pastor Sean Harris, via Twitter, but received no response.

You state, @Pastor_Sean, u will meet w/ anyone in your congreg abt your comments. How about meeting with me? Clergy-to-Clergy.

Is anyone surprised? What Pastor Harris said was perfectly acceptable to his parishioners. The problem is that there was audio and he got caught. Conservative Christians are claiming outrage because Dan Savage used a few inappropriate words during a journalism lecture. A dozen conservative journalism students walked out when Savage supposedly assaulted their religious sensibilities. Here we have a pastor advocating the assault of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender infants and children. Did one parent walk out? The hypocrisy from the so-called Religious Right is abominable. Michelangelo Signorile this afternoon interviewed North Carolina Pastor Sean Harris about the Pastor’s anti-gay comments and his advocacy on Sunday of beating children as young as four-years old to stop them from being homosexual. Harris, on Signorile’s Sirius XM OutQ radio show, apologized for his “poor choice of words” advocating child abuse and physical attacks, but stridently claimed his comments were taken out of context, “chopped and then posted in the blogosphere,” but stood by his beliefs that homosexuality is an abomination and a sin. “The word of God does not condone such behavior.” “Jesus conjures up violent images as well,” Harris told Signorile, as an excuse for what he classified as “hyperbole” in the “images” he discussed. Those “images” as The New Civil Rights Movement has repeatedly reported, included:

Give them a good punch,” and “crack that wrist,” Harris told parents if their four-year old boy, for example, “starts acting a little ‘girlish’.” Pastor Harris added that parents should tell their four-year olds to “man up, son, get that dress off you get outside and dig a ditch because that’s what boys do.”

“I said something stupid,” Harris told Signorile, and politely apologized, but claimed his “congregation understood the manner” in which he was speaking and was certain no one in the audience misunderstood his violent rhetoric to be “special dispensation,” even though he told them it indeed was. Harris also disavowed any responsibility he might have for those who don’t understand his years of ministering and hear his words and commit anti-gay hate crimes. Harris believes he wasn’t inciting violence or giving people permission to physically attack people who might be gay, even though he, a pastor, did. “No, they need to hear the entire message.” Harris told Signorile that “a father should teach a child that God gave them the gender that they have and they should strive to model for their child the difference between genders.” Signorile, a veteran journalist, pushed Harris on the issue of homosexuality and proper parenting. Harris insisted parent “should not permit that behavior,” of boys seemingly expressing effeminacy or girls seemingly expressing non-traditional gender behaviors. If a young boy expresses effeminate behaviors, parents should “take steps to eliminate the dresses for example,” Harris said. But things became more challenging when Signorile challenged Pastor Harris on the Bible, asking him why he doesn’t believe putting homosexuals to death, as the Bible advocates. “That particular passage is directly oriented toward the nation of Israel 4000 years ago,” Harris replied. But homosexuality is still not acceptable Harris insisted. “The sin remains and the person is in need of the gospel of Jesus Christ” to cure them of being gay, he said. Signorile asked Harris why he was elevating the “sin” of homosexuality over other sins, to which Harris strenuously denied. “Absolutely not” Harris stated when Signorile asked if he could “tempt” Harris to become gay. “You certainly could not make me gay,” he insisted, and insisted that homosexuality is a choice  – for some. Harris said he believes that everyone is tempted into sin. Which sins are dependent upon the individual. Which, is convenient when you’re peddling the false concept that homosexuality is sin and a choice, and kids should be punished for seeming to be gay.

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stephley stephley
Dave, we've been over this before. I agree with your theory that the GOP is utterly useless, but they have never been powerless.
BiWife BiWife
sorry about that, wrong link. At any rate, there have most certainly been budgets coming from the "other side" at the federal level. the GOP hasn't been the sole creator of budgets at the national level. Quite the contrary, conservative sites complain about the problems they see in Democrat budgets. http://capitolrecord.tvw.org/2012/04/senate-gop-latest-budget-proposal-takes-us-further-apart/
UnDave35 UnDave35
Hmmm, the STATE of washington budget implies that the US Government has a budget? Not sure how that link shows anything?? Staph - When you have a filibuster-proof majority, it's very difficult to make changes, and the majority party doesn't have to negotiate with the minority party to get anything passed. Even you can understand that, right?
stephley stephley
Aaand, Dave's back to his "don't blame the GOP we're completely ineffective" mode.
BiWife BiWife
the left hasn't come up with any budgets?? where have you been? Under a rock? http://leap.leg.wa.gov/leap/archives/index_budgetsp.asp
UnDave35 UnDave35
"clearly their strategy has been working since the state and federal legislative branches are stuffed full of people who won't put together " :rotfl: Really?!?! Who's been in charge of Congress since 2007? Which house has proposed a budget every year, only to have the other house not even debate, or produce one of their own? The left has failed the American publice for far too long.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix
Your point about voting demographics is also true and the introduction of such legislation is just what the left needs to wake them up. With the right motivation, pun intended, they'll get to the voting booth. I'm not too worried about that.
BiWife BiWife
Problem is that they are a highly structure, motivated, and manipulated section of the public that almost always votes. Where more liberal sections of the populace that make up the majority of public opinion do not vote - hardly ever. So we face a Wag the Dog problem where an extreme minority religious group puts in place a lot of religious laws that do not reflect the actual citizenry even if it does match the *voting public*. Having grown up within the extreme fringe religious Reich (err, religious Right), I know exactly how hard they push this stuff in church and church groups and clearly their strategy has been working since the state and federal legislative branches are stuffed full of people who won't put together a budget or jobs bill but have drafted a half dozen anti-contraception bills each.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix
I see what you're saying Bi but I was speaking specifically to the general publics perception of homosexuality. True there are far right conservatives who were swept into office on the Tea Party wave who are introducing far right legislation. Although they may have representative power for the moment they are but a small minority of our population. Where the Tea Party went wrong IMO is if they had stuck to the fiscal message that they rose upon they would be tolerable but as soon as any of them got any bit of representative power they were emboldened enough to unleash all of their social directives upon us. Perhaps the people in their congregation may be okay with that but the average American is not. These far right representatives in most cases are legislating their own demise in due time. The same fate fell upon the likes of Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Gingrich and Santorum. When they stuck to fiscal speak their numbers swelled. When they brought out their social baggage their numbers diminished. The rise of all of this far right legislation will not survive to be the norm in America because the majority of Americans simply won't endure that kind of theocratic over reach.
stephley stephley
A real pro-life movement wouldn't be satisfied with 'slowly but surely' when young people are killing themselves because they're made to hate themselves for who they are.
BiWife BiWife
people's beliefs may be changing, Hypno, but not necessarily in the right way. Look at the recent rash of anti-abortion bills that have been introduced at the federal and state levels. Same thing with all the anti-gay-marriage bills, creationism as science in schools, legal precedence for legality of firing someone for their sexual orientation, use of contraception, marital status, etc. We still have a glut of homeless help that is wholly religious and denies services to LGBT's (especially transgenders) while that is one of the greatest areas of need. Our courts and Congress keep getting tied up in stupid religious debates rather than actually making things happen that help people. My town effectively outlawed homelessness recently in reaction to Occupy protests that were otherwise totally legal and under control, and Denver is getting ready to follow suit. You can't give food to a homeless person without facing a huge fine and potential jail time. You are not allowed to camp anywhere within city limits, offenses are met with jail time of at least one night, but sometimes turns into an endless affair where the impoverished become criminals through their lengthy exposure to other inmates who are truly criminals. People don't suddenly get money and a home because they'll end up in jail otherwise, they simply end up at the mercy of the courts while they rack up legal debt and tax the system. We can't just say "oh, things are getting better slowly but surely", we have to be our own activists and can't let up. Look at the personhood bills. Those were laughed at and never gotclose to passing several years ago, but now they're narrow misses or have to be taken to the Supreme Court or a voter referendum to overturn it and restore the control of healthcare and contraception to women and their doctors.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix
I'm gonna get you two a room, presidential suite ;)
stephley stephley
;) you just go on believing that hon. Never met a man who didn't think of himself as misunderstood.
Grandpa Grandpa
oh, and clearly you don't understand me at all.
Grandpa Grandpa
hey lets not get insulting make it white Gaelic heterosexual male. :rotfl:
stephley stephley
White anglo-saxon heterosexual male and we understand it all too well.
Grandpa Grandpa
Hypno, even when you explain in detail what i said it is rejected by the ladies. I am left it with only one explanation "it is a male thing and they just wouldn't understand it" :rotfl:
stephley stephley
You are simply incapable of an original thought Dave.
UnDave35 UnDave35
My judgment is based on what you say, how you say it, and how often you repeat yourself.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix
Not at all Biwife. An acknowledgment that people think a certain way does not equate ones personal agreement of their beliefs and behavior. Such as sure there's racism but no it does not mean I'm okay with it. Evolution in all of it's forms is not a switch that simply needs to be flipped. People require experiences to evolve the way they think and those experiences take time. It is what it is and it is the way things work. Yes it sucks and yes we wish things could mesh faster but in most cases it just doesn't work that way.
stephley stephley
Comment 31 speaks to the danger of ignoring that subtle insistance Hypno.
stephley stephley
Hmmm – I think you’re being generous in suggesting the consensus/personal confusion is an accident. Grandpa’s been here a long time, and if there’s one thing clear about him, it is that he presents his opinion as the response of a reasoned majority: that he should handle all questions about Catholicism because he understands it best; that he should be the point man on history because he has read so much more than anyone else, etc. It’s not about personal attacks Hypno. It’s about recognizing a subtle insistence that there is one right way. I’d characterize it more particularly, but the outrage would bore me.
BiWife BiWife
So children committing suicides in the meantime are acceptable fallout/collateral damage while the breeders get their act together?
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix
It is a sad state of affairs BiWife but the light at the end of the tunnel is that peoples beliefs are evolving and that is a good thing. When I came out my mother cried for a couple days then she was over it. My father was dissapointed but admitted "well some poeple are born that way" and he too was over it so it's not always so dramatic.
BiWife BiWife
That's a pretty sad commentary if that is truly how the majority of parents think. Makes them even more selfish for having children that they will pity or be disappointed in based on something hardwired like sexual orientation. How dare these people go about having children when they will ultimately harm them by expecting (or demanding) heteronormative offspring. I will never understand the audacity of most parents and their glib treatment of extremely serious core issues of child-rearing. Just because you can reproduce most certainly does not mean you should.