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Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) has officially rejected a proposal by the city of Tampa to limit firearms outside the Republican National Convention in Florida later this year.

Last week, the Tampa City Council formally asked Scott to use his executive power to temporarily suspend a state law that prevents local governments from regulating guns.

The council has already issued a citywide ban on items like pieces of wood, switchblades, slingshots, containers of bodily fluids and even squirt guns. A so-called “Clean Zone” around the convention area would prohibit string longer than six inches, glass containers, light bulbs, portable shields and gas masks. A smaller protest area would prevent demonstrators from having camping gear, bottles, cans and umbrellas. The Secret Service has said that only law enforcement will be able to carry firearms inside of the convention center.

Council member Lisa Montelione told Scott that a gun ban was necessary to “prevent a potential tragedy.”

“The short answer to your request is found in the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and Article I, Section 8 of the Florida Constitution,” Scott said in his letter to the council (PDF). “While the government may enforce longstanding prohibitions on the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, an absolute ban on possession in entire neighborhoods and regions would surely violate the 2nd Amendment.”

“Like you, I share the concern that ‘violent anti-government protests or other civil unrest’ can pose ‘dangers’ and the ‘threat of substantial injury or harm to Florida residents and visitors to the State.’ But it is unclear how disarming law-abiding citizens would better protect them from the dangers and threats posed by those who would flout the law,” he added.

Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn has said that the state law makes the city “look silly.”

“The absurdity of banning squirt guns but not being able to do anything about real guns is patently obvious,” Buckhorn explained. “Given the nature and the potential dynamic of this event, I think it would make sense that you would not want firearms introduced into that environment by people other than law enforcement.”

The mayor suggested that Tampa could “become fodder for the late-night comics because of something that has nothing to do with us and nothing to do with our ability to control the situation, and it’s elevated by Trayvon Martin, obviously.”

Legal experts told the Tampa Bay Times that in the emotionally-charged protest environment, another tragedy could take place that was covered by Florida’s controversial “Stand Your Ground” law that allows gun owners to use deadly force in public places without a duty to retreat.

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stephley stephley 2 years 19 weeks
I’m a little surprised Gramps, that you clearly don’t know what the term “revisionist history” means. I’m not offering anything revised: the bin Laden unit was disbanded in late 2005. Intelligence officers who had been with the unit saw it as a sign that bin Laden was seen as less of a threat. At the time, Michael Scheuer, a former senior C.I.A. official with the unit told the NY Times: "This will clearly denigrate our operations against Al Qaeda, These days at the agency, bin Laden and Al Qaeda appear to be treated merely as first among equals." More details: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html?_r=1 I’m not revising anything about Bush’s faded interest in bin Laden: "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - G.W. Bush, 9/13/01 "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02 "I am truly not that concerned about him." - G.W. Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02 There’s this from your beloved YouTube: http://youtu.be/4PGmnz5Ow-o How soon did Bush lose interest in the war in Afghanistan? By 2003 http://www.ajr.org/article.asp?id=3041 Was Bush more interested in Saddam Hussein & Iraq? Why yes, according to his Treasury Secretary among others: http://articles.cnn.com/2004-01-10/politics/oneill.bush_1_roomful-of-deaf-people-education-of-paul-o-neill-national-security-council-meeting?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS Do you understand for me to be preaching revisionist history I’d have to be revising facts, and as these cites from the period in question show, I’ve changed nothing.
Grandpa Grandpa 2 years 19 weeks
revisionist history Steph, :rotfl:
stephley stephley 2 years 19 weeks
We should thank Dave & Gramps for kindly illustrating for everyone why Fox News supporters are the most ill-informed "news" viewers. Dave of course, just makes stuff up completely. While Gramps tries to revise history, a la Fox: "No irony is Obama inherited everything from George Bush EXCEPT the intelligence network that tracked down Osama Bin Laden" Everyone who doesn't follow news customized for their ideologic enjoyment knows that President Obama inherited an intelligence network that had disbanded the 10-year old unit charged with hunting bin Laden. While President Obama intentionally focused on finding the man behind the murders of thousands of Americans, Bush - after once claiming he wanted bin Laden "dead or alive" - focused instead on Saddam Hussein and Iraq. We all remember that Bush said of bin Laden "I truly am not that concerned about him ... I was concerned about him when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban." Yes, somehow Bush thought bin Laden's crime was taking over Afghanistan. We remember too that Bush then even let the war effort in Afghanistan slide while he focused on Iraq, which hadn't done anything to the US. These are the kind of people who think there should be guns at the GOP convention to protect them from Americans exercising their right to speak out against b.s.
BiWife BiWife 2 years 19 weeks
Sorry, but Occupy Denver and Colorado Springs (and any other in my state, for that matter) have not had any OWS related shootings. The Occupy folks did get arrested for trying to feed the homeless, but they certainly weren't violent. There was one guy who pushed the back of a cop's motorcycle after the cop rode the motorcycle through a group of people and nearly ran the guy over. The powers that be have even made it a crime to hold up a sign asking people to honk if they support whatever cause is on your sign. (despite the fact that the governor personally did that very thing as part of his election campaign, standing on the side of busy streets waving and getting folks to honk for him) I don't get what upsets people so much about the Occupy folks that makes them have to fabricate offenses so frequently.
Grandpa Grandpa 2 years 19 weeks
No irony is Obama inherited everything from George Bush EXCEPT the intelligence network that tracked down Osama Bin Laden
stephley stephley 2 years 19 weeks
You're making stuff up again Dave-you'd think you'd get tired of being wrong.
UnDave35 UnDave35 2 years 19 weeks
The irony is it's the OWS crowd that are responsible for the violence and gunshot wounds, but that seems to be irrelevant to libs.
stephley stephley 2 years 20 weeks
We need to protect peoples' 2nd amendment right to kill people exercising their 1st amendment rights.